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A good friend of mine who is working on her Phd in Art & Religion at the Graduate Theological Union in Berekely, California sent me this birthday card...
posted by Big Daddy Weave at 8:23 PM
Son, Grandson, and Nephew of SBTS educated Baptist ministers. Alumnus of the University of Georgia. A Graduate Student at Baylor University. Interned with Civil Rights leader Rep. John Lewis. Worked for the BJC. Liberated from Georgia Baptist Fundamentalists. Theologically Moderate and Politically Progressive. A 24 year old South Georgia boy living in the Heart of Texas. I am THE big daddy weave. Email: Aaron_Weaver@baylor.edu
15 Comments:
Happy Birthday, dude? The big 24, huh? Ah, still wet behind the ears.
Enjoy.
6:41 AM
Hmmmmm ... I wonder who this mystery friend of yours is. She obviously does not know you very well, because you are *such* a Bush toady. :-)
Happy Birthday.
NAF
11:01 AM
As they say here in Oklahoma, I don't know if I should Scream or go Blind!
Oh my. :)
I wonder if Pres. Bush would turn the other cheek?
3:52 AM
A belated birthday gift: Fewer and fewer people are registering Republican or identifying with Republican values! See the article
here: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/032307E.shtml
12:25 PM
Big Daddy Weave,
Your Wednesday funny is disrespectful to our current sitting President. I wonder if you would have posted the same funny if Jesus had been hitting Bill Clinton instead. I certainly don't expect liberals to embrace anyone who attempts to live out their faith and is conservative in their politics. But the hatred the Left has for President Bush is beyond reason.
The real question is WWJD about the current Democratic Party, the party that embraces homosexuality, supports the killing of unborn children, and the party that has been captured by the Looney Left in this country? Got any answers?
4:04 PM
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Jim,
Lighten up buddy. Have a sense of humor.
And Jim - it is disrespectful...but so what? Let's be honest - who hasn't disrespected George Bush?
I don't hate the guy. He's just a terrible President. The results are in - and America agrees with ME not you Jim.
Jim, I've told a handful of Clinton jokes in my day - some clean, some dirty. A sense of humor...get one!
Contrary to what you may believe Jim, I've never killed a baby nor had any homosexual loving. And yea, I'm a Democrat. DNC used to pay my bills.
Quit being spoon-fed by Fox News. Looney Left? Oh sheesh.
12:51 AM
BDW,
Rather than spoon-feeding you from Fox News, do you mind if I give you a little 1 Peter to spoon-feed your friend:
Submit yourselves for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right. For such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men. Act as free men, and do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God. Honor all people, love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the King. (1 Peter 2:13-17)
It is one thing to dishonor the president; it is quite another to employ the visage of Christ in doing so. That's (IMHO) a violation not only of the last phrase in the passage quoted above, but the next-to-the-last one as well.
6:42 AM
Apologies to all.
As soon as I finish typing this, I plan to cancel my subscription to The Wittenburg Door!!
I suspect my Rapture Alert poster is a no-go as well...
9:06 AM
As Steve Lawler, a priest and ethicist, recently said...
"If we look at the Calvinist form of religion that undergirds American civil religion, we can see why there is a lack of books on the humor of folks in those traditions," he says. "Anti-emotion and anti-body, there goes the belly laugh...Besides, humor reminds us that we're human..Too many of the humorless have lost the fullness of their humanity. They stand stone-faced and scared before God. The sad thing is that they think the rest of us should as well."
9:18 AM
Happy birthday a little late!
(I'm not touching the content question here. Although I think Jesus would probably have pretty harsh words for most of our politicians, regardless of whichever side of the aisle on which they sit.)
11:19 AM
What is telling, Aaron, is that the no-humor critics are not angry that Jesus is depicted as violent (as a Christian pacifist I would be offended if I DIDN'T have a sense of humor), but that he is hitting Bush, a sitting president, etc. I guess they'd be okay with this if Jesus was hitting Saddam or Osama, etc.
Sheesh!
I agree with you that Bush is a terrible president. Even more disturbing, however, is how poor a Christian he is--and how undisturbed conservative Christians are by that. They were (rightly) all upset by Clinton's adulterous actions. But Bush's habitual lying, attacks on the poor and the environment, warmongering, torture-endorsing, etc.--don't phase them a bit.
12:27 PM
Hey...lots of people make political humor. It is the inclusion of the Lord in it at which I balk. And yes, Michael, such a violent image of Christ is part of the offense.
8:01 PM
First,
It is just silly to say that because one doesn't find humor in every thing you find humor in, or is offended at something you think is funny, that he or she doesn't have a sense of humor. If that were true, then the same would be true regarding all those liberals who protest Ann Coulter on a regular basis anytime she attempts to be humorous in an inappropriate way. It's just intellectually absurd to say such a thing.
Also, I don't think appealing to the Wittenburg Door is any help to your case BDW. Certainly there are funny things put out by those folks, but they also employ some humor that is completely inappropriate and substantially sacreligious. Now, does that mean I don't have a sense of humor? Certainly not. And to say such a thing, as noted earlier, is not only intellectually absurd, but is bogus given you've never met me face to face and have no clue what my personality is like, just as you have no clue about these men that have criticized your posting.
As to the cartoon, certainly the message is a political one and would only likely be found funny by liberals like yourself. Why would a conservative find that funny?? As Jim correctly pointed out, what would be the reaction of liberals who saw a similar cartoon with Bill Clinton substituted for George Bush? Or Nancy Pelosi? Or Hillary Clinton?
What I find most interesting in all of this is the absolute hatred of George Bush by liberal Christians, many of whom railed against the hatred of Bill Clinton by conservatives as being unChristlike.
Meanwhile...no one is actually debating the issues involved. Though everyone seems to want to flaunt conspiracy theories and ignore the real enemies like Islamofacists like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad whose military just illegally kidnapped 15 British soldiers. But I guess that is probably our fault for being Americans who care about the freedom of Iraqis, Iranians, and especially women, Christians, and others persecuted in the Middle East.
2:06 PM
I don't expect Jim to find humor in my birthday card - same applies to you. However, I'm not offended easily. If Jim or you posts an anti-Clinton cartoon, I may even laugh but won't cry about it.
Second, I didn't draw you into this conversation. You decided to chime in after the fact. And don't think Jim is a new visitor - we've had a conversation or two elsewhere. I know Robert Darden of Baylor - editor of Wittenburg. Read his magazine for quite some time. I like the magazine. If you're offended fine. But Jim was calling me out for being disrespectful to the President which I was. And you and him have the right to make jokes about whomever you want.
It's just a joke. A birthday card. A cartoon about our President...
Who HATES Bush? Your generalizing here. What liberal Christians HATE Bush? Come on now - back up your assertions with facts.
Who?
Yea, there are plenty of folks in the blogosphere who HATE Bush. And there are just as many who HATE the Clintons....
But what Christians HATE the man?
If Michael suggests that Bush is unChristlike, does that mean he hates Bush? Or if a Christian suggests that Bush should be impeached, does that mean they HATE Bush? No. That's absurd.
Who is flaunting conspiracy theories?
I'm equally as concerned as you about the British soldiers that were kidnapped. All afternoon I had on MSNBC - hardly any coverage of the Iran situation but dangit I now know the names of every drug that was in Anna Nicole's refrigerator by heart...
8:30 PM
"It is one thing to dishonor the president; it is quite another to employ the visage of Christ in doing so."
Ya know, in the Psalms, how they have those prayers for God to "utterly destroy mine enemies, whack 'em good dear Lord, in your mercy..."? There's a word for that type of prayer.
I think those are in the Bible not to suggest that it's good to pray for the painful destruction of our enemies (God forbid! - we have our clear instructions to Love our enemies), but rather to show that God understands our frustrations - that we want to be able to sometimes just say, "GOD Strike 'em Dead!!" and that we CAN say such a thing to God.
It's called venting. I don't suggest anyone make a habit of it, but amongst friends and God, it can be a bit of a relief. Especially if it's funny.
It's a bit more humorous in this case than it would be in Clinton's case (Clinton, whom I profoundly disliked as a president) because Bush is the one wrapping himself in the Shroud of Turin with Bible pages pasted to it.
12:07 PM
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